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	<title>Comments on: A Request to Tech Bloggers: Please Actually Use an Augmented Reality App Before Reporting On It &#8211; You&#8217;re Hurting the Industry</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin Leversee</title>
		<link>http://weareorganizedchaos.com/index.php/2009/11/05/a-request-to-tech-bloggers-please-actually-use-an-augmented-reality-app-before-reporting-on-it-youre-hurting-the-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-453523</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Leversee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with Antao Almada- Hype does not generate business- Hype is noise, Truth ala Word Of  Mouth and Value Generates Business.  In tight and competitive markets you must have compelling reasons, not just hype.

Augmented Reality is still razors edge- I myself have not had the chance to use any devices, but that did not stop me from tweeting the cool factor of the BMW example or from my own cognition of the values that can stem from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with Antao Almada- Hype does not generate business- Hype is noise, Truth ala Word Of  Mouth and Value Generates Business.  In tight and competitive markets you must have compelling reasons, not just hype.</p>
<p>Augmented Reality is still razors edge- I myself have not had the chance to use any devices, but that did not stop me from tweeting the cool factor of the BMW example or from my own cognition of the values that can stem from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Linkfest &#171; Games Alfresco</title>
		<link>http://weareorganizedchaos.com/index.php/2009/11/05/a-request-to-tech-bloggers-please-actually-use-an-augmented-reality-app-before-reporting-on-it-youre-hurting-the-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-453522</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekly Linkfest &#171; Games Alfresco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and Techdirt&#8217;s critique of gimmicky AR applications. Even Zugara has called on bloggers to cool down the hype. The best of its kind is BusinessWeek&#8217;s &#8220;Augmented Reality: Getting Beyond the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and Techdirt&#8217;s critique of gimmicky AR applications. Even Zugara has called on bloggers to cool down the hype. The best of its kind is BusinessWeek&#8217;s &#8220;Augmented Reality: Getting Beyond the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Murat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Blake 

I&#039;ve seen a couple of good uses,you have to bare in mind this is very new onto the scene.  

You have the Wellington Zoo newspaper ad: http://theinspirationroom.com/daily/2007/augmented-reality-at-wellington-zoo/ 
Won some awards for Hyperfactory

Then you have the Nike T90 Treasure Hunt, which also won some awards:
http://mobileinc.co.uk/2009/06/i-love-nikes-mobile-marketing/

BMW AR Screensaver + Social upload
http://mobileinc.co.uk/2009/09/bmw-expression-of-joy-campaign-awesome-augmented-reality-app/

You need to give time for agencies to know how to ultilise it and brands to want to take part. If you compare it to something like QR codes, it&#039;s moving at a much faster rate. It&#039;s already appeared on the front of Esquire. A lot of stuff just seems like proof of concept but the BMW piece was awesome, it tied directly into the above the line message.

I&#039;m kinda mobile bias because of the field I work in but I can certainly see the benefits for the web using AR. That social shopper is EXACTLY the badass way it needs to be done. I bet ASOS would jump on that.

@Antão

I&#039;m not gonna lie, I wanna see the Star Wars chest board just like everyone else :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Blake </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen a couple of good uses,you have to bare in mind this is very new onto the scene.  </p>
<p>You have the Wellington Zoo newspaper ad: <a href="http://theinspirationroom.com/daily/2007/augmented-reality-at-wellington-zoo/" rel="nofollow">http://theinspirationroom.com/daily/2007/augmented-reality-at-wellington-zoo/</a><br />
Won some awards for Hyperfactory</p>
<p>Then you have the Nike T90 Treasure Hunt, which also won some awards:<br />
<a href="http://mobileinc.co.uk/2009/06/i-love-nikes-mobile-marketing/" rel="nofollow">http://mobileinc.co.uk/2009/06/i-love-nikes-mobile-marketing/</a></p>
<p>BMW AR Screensaver + Social upload<br />
<a href="http://mobileinc.co.uk/2009/09/bmw-expression-of-joy-campaign-awesome-augmented-reality-app/" rel="nofollow">http://mobileinc.co.uk/2009/09/bmw-expression-of-joy-campaign-awesome-augmented-reality-app/</a></p>
<p>You need to give time for agencies to know how to ultilise it and brands to want to take part. If you compare it to something like QR codes, it&#8217;s moving at a much faster rate. It&#8217;s already appeared on the front of Esquire. A lot of stuff just seems like proof of concept but the BMW piece was awesome, it tied directly into the above the line message.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m kinda mobile bias because of the field I work in but I can certainly see the benefits for the web using AR. That social shopper is EXACTLY the badass way it needs to be done. I bet ASOS would jump on that.</p>
<p>@Antão</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not gonna lie, I wanna see the Star Wars chest board just like everyone else <img src='http://weareorganizedchaos.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Antão Almada</title>
		<link>http://weareorganizedchaos.com/index.php/2009/11/05/a-request-to-tech-bloggers-please-actually-use-an-augmented-reality-app-before-reporting-on-it-youre-hurting-the-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-453519</link>
		<dc:creator>Antão Almada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Murat For some reason people dream of having holograms working just like in Star Wars. That&#039;s the most requested feature by our customers. We have to explain them, over and over again that it doesn&#039;t exist. Long time ago I wrote an internal whitepaper to explain our sales team different solutions of how to fake it. I think people recognize some of it in AR...

@Blake I totally agree on your Convergence Reality. We at YDreams call it Reality Computing... ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Murat For some reason people dream of having holograms working just like in Star Wars. That&#8217;s the most requested feature by our customers. We have to explain them, over and over again that it doesn&#8217;t exist. Long time ago I wrote an internal whitepaper to explain our sales team different solutions of how to fake it. I think people recognize some of it in AR&#8230;</p>
<p>@Blake I totally agree on your Convergence Reality. We at YDreams call it Reality Computing&#8230; <img src='http://weareorganizedchaos.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Blake Callens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blake Callens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Murat, I think that AR buzz is accumulating so fast, because people are really excited about what the tech offers for the future of computing.  Unfortunately, it doesn&#039;t offer very much on the mobile side right now, but that&#039;s not stopping people from pretending that it does.  The most eye opening uses right now, IMO, are happening on the web side of things.

At Zugara, we&#039;re focusing on utility based executions of Flash AR, and biding our time until Apple opens up real time image processing on the iPhone.  I can&#039;t tell you how many blog posts I read that make AR seem like a mobile only thing. :)

My firm belief is that Augmented Reality will wind up being most frequently used as a melding with motion capture or body recognition to form something I like to call Convergent Reality.  This expands upon the current popular thinking around AR, which is just to bring the digital into the real, to also bring the real back into the digital and make the two work together.  You can see this type of application in our Webcam Social Shopper, as well as our latest project ZugSTAR (http://bit.ly/1L9QVO)

I think you hit the nail on the head with, &quot;If it’s used correctly it can compliment a good ad campaign,&quot; but how many times have you seen it used correctly.  Almost everything I see is just eye candy.  I think it&#039;s most important to determine what you want to do before deciding if AR is right for the execution, and not the other way around, as it seems most firms are doing right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Murat, I think that AR buzz is accumulating so fast, because people are really excited about what the tech offers for the future of computing.  Unfortunately, it doesn&#8217;t offer very much on the mobile side right now, but that&#8217;s not stopping people from pretending that it does.  The most eye opening uses right now, IMO, are happening on the web side of things.</p>
<p>At Zugara, we&#8217;re focusing on utility based executions of Flash AR, and biding our time until Apple opens up real time image processing on the iPhone.  I can&#8217;t tell you how many blog posts I read that make AR seem like a mobile only thing. <img src='http://weareorganizedchaos.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My firm belief is that Augmented Reality will wind up being most frequently used as a melding with motion capture or body recognition to form something I like to call Convergent Reality.  This expands upon the current popular thinking around AR, which is just to bring the digital into the real, to also bring the real back into the digital and make the two work together.  You can see this type of application in our Webcam Social Shopper, as well as our latest project ZugSTAR (<a href="http://bit.ly/1L9QVO" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1L9QVO</a>)</p>
<p>I think you hit the nail on the head with, &#8220;If it’s used correctly it can compliment a good ad campaign,&#8221; but how many times have you seen it used correctly.  Almost everything I see is just eye candy.  I think it&#8217;s most important to determine what you want to do before deciding if AR is right for the execution, and not the other way around, as it seems most firms are doing right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Murat</title>
		<link>http://weareorganizedchaos.com/index.php/2009/11/05/a-request-to-tech-bloggers-please-actually-use-an-augmented-reality-app-before-reporting-on-it-youre-hurting-the-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-453517</link>
		<dc:creator>Murat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think for the consumer it produces the wow factor but it doesn&#039;t actually have any depth. Like any piece of new technology if your have a sound creative idea and a great execution you can pull it off at one-off campaign level.

It&#039;s snowballing pretty quickly though isn&#039;t it? I would love to know your thoughts on why AR is moving so quickly compared to other bit of tech. My feeling is that the pure richness of what you can do always makes people jizz in their pants and become a bit blinded.

The thing is although I know that making the consumer download a app to take part in any campaign is a bit shit and gives you large drop off rates, I never really advise it.  This is in early stages and brands are all over it like a rash. We should just be happy they are embracing this kind of thing straight out the gate rather than spending 5 years trying to get them to try it. If it&#039;s used correctly it can compliment a good ad campaign. 

I love the tweet &quot;Augmented Reality Goes 3D,” its a bit like &quot;SMS goes mobile&quot;

Great post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think for the consumer it produces the wow factor but it doesn&#8217;t actually have any depth. Like any piece of new technology if your have a sound creative idea and a great execution you can pull it off at one-off campaign level.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s snowballing pretty quickly though isn&#8217;t it? I would love to know your thoughts on why AR is moving so quickly compared to other bit of tech. My feeling is that the pure richness of what you can do always makes people jizz in their pants and become a bit blinded.</p>
<p>The thing is although I know that making the consumer download a app to take part in any campaign is a bit shit and gives you large drop off rates, I never really advise it.  This is in early stages and brands are all over it like a rash. We should just be happy they are embracing this kind of thing straight out the gate rather than spending 5 years trying to get them to try it. If it&#8217;s used correctly it can compliment a good ad campaign. </p>
<p>I love the tweet &#8220;Augmented Reality Goes 3D,” its a bit like &#8220;SMS goes mobile&#8221;</p>
<p>Great post</p>
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		<title>By: Antão Almada</title>
		<link>http://weareorganizedchaos.com/index.php/2009/11/05/a-request-to-tech-bloggers-please-actually-use-an-augmented-reality-app-before-reporting-on-it-youre-hurting-the-industry/comment-page-1/#comment-453514</link>
		<dc:creator>Antão Almada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I predicted this months ago. The industry is also to blame. Hype generates business but also increases disappointment...
Antao</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I predicted this months ago. The industry is also to blame. Hype generates business but also increases disappointment&#8230;<br />
Antao</p>
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